Adminović έγραψε:Τραίνα χωρίς την ενδεδειγμένη αντιπυρικη προστασία, που κρίθηκαν ακατάλληλα στην Ιταλία, είναι αυτά για τα οποία μιλάμε.
Όπως είδαμε, φωτιά έπιασε και στο συγκεκριμένο τραίνο, η οποία γρήγορα πήρε διαστάσεις. Μην πούμε και για τα συνεχή προβλήματα που παρουσίαζαν τα συγκεκριμένα τραίνα, με αποτέλεσμα να υπάρχουν συνεχώς καθυστερήσεις και μικροατυχήματα.
Κατά τ' άλλα φταίει μόνο ο σταθμάρχης ή ο ΟΣΕ.“The ETR 470s must be immediately replaced by other rolling stock,” said a joint resolution of the Swiss train drivers’ and railway employees’ associations in May 2011. “Since their entry into service in 1993, the ETR 470s have continually experienced the same technical problems, which cannot be resolved. They constantly cause enormous difficulties for traffic and damage the image of the railways. They often fail to keep to timetables, stop mid-journey or break down completely. All this puts staff under great pressure, exacerbated by constant and justified complaints from passengers.”
Finally, in 2014, when Swiss Railways sent its own four ETR 470s to the Kaiseraugst train dismantling yard, saving one first-class carriage for the railway museum, Trenitalia rerouted its own five on the gentler Rome-Reggio Calabria route. There, as on the Swiss line, the ETR -470s were complementary to other, more advanced trains. There is no data on how many of the five were fit to run at the same time. When asked by Investigate Europe, Ferrovie dello Stato spokesman Carlo Valentino replied that everything went well: “After the initial period of adjustment to new engineering systems, the performance of the trains has always been very good, with absolute maintainability and reliability compared to the rest of the train fleet,” he said.
But in fact, the ETR 470s differ from the rest of Trenitalia’s fleet because they were never fitted with modern fire protection systems. By 2005, past incidents had convinced Italian authorities to toughen fire protection regulations and to require high-pressure water mist systems on the ceiling of every wagon entering tunnels longer than 500 metres (UNI 11565 standard, revised in 2016). The regulation was immediately applicable to all new trains, while trains already in service had to either be modernised or withdrawn before spring 2020 (due to the pandemic, the deadline was slightly postponed). Instead of upgrading the ETR 470s to make them fit for tunnels, FSI sent them to Greece.
On the Athens-Thessaloniki route, there are several tunnels over 500 metres long, while four (the Kallidromon, Othrys, Tempi and Platamonas tunnels) are over 2.5 km long. Was the advanced active fire-fighting system included in the overhaul of the ETR 470s after they left service in Italy and before they arrived in Greece? Investigate Europe requested the list of works from Alstom Greece, which did not reply, directing questions to TRAINOSE, which didn’t provide the list either.
https://www.investigate-europe.eu/en/20 ... -trainose/
Αυτό που επισημαίνεις είναι ότι τα στάνταρντ πυρασφάλειας σε άλλες χώρες είναι πιο αυστηρά:
“ETR 470s have a fire protection system and there are fire extinguishers on the trains. The UNI11565 standard is Italian legislation. The ETR 470s comply with Greek legislation”.
They most certainly should comply, otherwise, they will not be licensed by the Greek railway regulator, RAS. (In spring 2021, TRAINOSE was met with a firm no by RAS after applying to licence the ETR 470s without fitting them with adhesion-improving sand-dispersion devices, as required by Greek national rules.) But, on fire safety, RAS told Investigate Europe that in Greece, there is no national rule requiring high-pressure, water mist active fire-fighting systems for wagons entering tunnels, like there is in Italy.
Πρόκειται για θέμα διαφοράς νομοθεσίας και προδιαγραφών ασφαλείας μεταξύ εν πολλοίς ανεπτυγμένης χώρας και υπανάπτυκτης, όχι ότι τα τραίνα δεν έχουν σύστημα πυρασφάλειας γενικά.
Απο εκεί και πέρα, εδώ έχουμε δυό τραίνα που συγκρούστηκαν μετωπικά, σε ένα δίκτυο όπου δεν λειτουργεί ERTMS αλλά Class-B σύστημα, δηλαδή ο Βασίλς και ο Γιώργς στα σιμπί
καλώς ήλθες στην περιφέρεια του πολιτισμένου κόσμου.
