Λαχουρένιος έγραψε:Προέλλην έγραψε:Πρόκειται για μη θέμα. Αν θες να ανησυχείς με κάτι, ανησύχησε με Γαλλία.
Είχαμε συζητήσει για την Λεπέν πριν μερικούς μήνες και έλεγες παρόμοια με αυτά που γράφεις σήμερα για την ΓερμανίαΑλλά δεν κρύβω ότι μέχρι πολύ πρόσφατα είχα υποτιμήσει και εγώ την δυναμική όλων αυτών των σταγονιδίων.
Δεν πρόκειται για ίδιες περιπτώσεις. Στη Γαλλία η ακροδεξιά υπήρχε ανέκαθεν και αδιάληπτα, χωρίς να κουβαλάει κάποιο ιδιαίτερο στίγμα (το ίδιο και η αριστερά) και το κυριότερο, χωρίς να υπάρχουν σχετικές ρήτρες στο σύνταγμα τους. Είχαν την νεοαποκιοκρατία με το νέο ντηλ του Ντε Γκώλ για την Φρανκαφρίκ, τo Βιετνάμ (ο Λεπέν υπηρέτησε εκεί), την Αλγερία. Επίσης, στη Γαλλία, το Φροντ Νασιονάλ ανέβηκε τόσο, αφού πρώτα τα απέταξε την ακραία πτέρυγά του. Αν δεν ήταν ο πουτλερισμός και ο αντιΕΕδισμός του, η Λεπέν δεν θα είχε κάποια διαφορά απο την Μελόνι.
Το σενάριο όπου το AfD υπερδιπλασιάζει τις ψήφους του και απο 20% πάει στο 50% για να κάνει κυβέρνηση, δεν είναι ρεαλιστικό. Το ότι συνέβει στη Γαλλία, δεν σημαίνει ότι θα συμβεί και στη Γερμανία.
Πέραν τούτου, στη Γερμανία ο δεξιός και αριστερός εξτρεμισμός υπόκειται σε έλεγχο απο ομοσπονδιακή υπηρεσία πληροφοριών. Και με το "εξτρεμισμός" δεν εννοούν μόνο εξτρεμιστικές επιθέσεις αλλά και ρητορία, προθέσεις, κλπ.
To AfD είναι επίσημα κατηγοριοποιημένο απο την ομοσπονδιακή υπηρεσία προστασίας του συντάγματος ως ύποπτη περίπτωση δεξιού εξτρεμισμού (ακόμη και το δεξιός έχει αρνητική έννοια, δεν υπάρχει διαχωρισμός δεξιά-ακροδεξιά και κανείς πχ στο CDU δεν λέει εγώ είμαι δεξιός όπως λένε νεοδημοκράτες περήφανα
) και παρακολουθείται στενά. Η υπηρεσία έχει φακελωμένο κάθε ακραίο μέλος του και τους παρακολουθούν στενά (τους φορτώνουν τον φάκελο για όταν έρθει η ώρα να τους βγάλουν εκτός κυκλοφορίας, έναν έναν ή μαζικά)The AfD has appealed to the Higher Administrative Court (OVG) of North Rhine-Westphalia against the decision of the Administrative Court (VG) of Cologne in March 2022, which confirmed the BfV's classification of the Alternative for Germany (AfD) as a suspected right-wing extremist organization in February 2021 due to the existence of sufficient factual indications of anti-constitutional activities.
In 2023, the party claimed to have grown to 40,131 members. There is still heterogeneity within the party, albeit significantly decreasing, meaning that not all party members can be considered supporters of extremist tendencies. Based on the voting results from the European election meeting held in Magdeburg (Saxony-Anhalt) on July 29 and 30 and from August 4 to 6, 2023, as well as statements made by party officials, the potential number of extremist individuals within the AfD (suspected case) is around 11,000.
In many cases, statements made by the AfD (suspected case) and its representatives express an ethnic and descent-based understanding of the people that contradicts the understanding of the people in the Basic Law. In addition, numerous xenophobic and anti-Muslim positions were also found in AfD statements in the reporting year (suspected case). In particular, asylum seekers and migrants from Islamic countries of origin were often accused of cultural incompatibility and a pronounced tendency towards criminality. In July 2023, for example, a member of the AfD federal executive (suspected case) warned against migration “from a culturally alien context, from violent cultures” and declared
“Knife crime, for example. It's completely unknown to us in our culture. It never existed. The phenomenon doesn't exist here. It exists in cultures in Africa and the Middle East, to put it bluntly. And if they let these people from violent societies into their country, (...) yes, then there will be a clash, a clash of cultures.”
(YouTube video portal, July 9, 2023)
Within the AfD (suspected case) in 2023, numerous AfD functionaries and mandate holders were also found to have established links to actors and organizations of the extremist section of the New Right. These are not coincidental, but structural connections within a strategically operating network.
Founded in 2013, the “Junge Alternative” (JA) is the official youth organization of the AfD (suspected case). It is divided into 16 state associations and, according to its own information, had around 4,000 members at the end of 2023. The JA was initially processed as a suspected case by the BfV in January 2019. The VG Cologne (North Rhine-Westphalia) confirmed this classification in March 2022.
According to the VG Cologne, there are factual indications that a central political objective of the JA is the preservation of the German people in its ethnic continuity and that ethnically “foreigners” should be excluded wherever possible. Such a concept of ethnicity and descent violates human dignity. Leading functionaries of the JA continue to hold similar positions after the VG's decision. The JA and the AfD (suspected case) have lodged an appeal against the ruling with the OVG North Rhine-Westphalia.
(In its ruling of May 13, 2024, the OVG dismissed the appeal (5 A 1217/22). An appeal on points of law was not permitted; an appeal against non-admission can be lodged with the Federal Administrative Court).
In April 2023, the BfV classified the JA as a confirmed extremist organization. JA filed an action against this on June 12, 2023 and sought urgent legal protection from the Cologne Administrative Court. In a commitment to stand still vis-à-vis the VG on June 14, 2023, the BfV declared that it would provisionally suspend the classification of the JA as a confirmed extremist organization until a decision was made by the deciding chamber in the summary proceedings, that it would only process the JA as a suspected case for the time being and that it would not publicly designate it as a confirmed extremist organization until a decision was made.
(The Cologne Administrative Court decided in summary proceedings on February 5, 2024 that the classification of the JA as a confirmed extremist organization by the BfV is lawful after a summary examination. As a result, since February 5, 2024, the JA is again being processed by the BfV as a confirmed extremist organization. The JA and the AfD (suspected case) have lodged an appeal against the decision with the OVG North Rhine-Westphalia. The decision in the main proceedings is still pending, as is the decision of the OVG on the appeal).
What is the task of the Office for the Protection of the Constitution?
It is also known as the “early warning system of democracy”. In Germany, there is the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) and 16 state authorities for the protection of the constitution. According to the law, the federal and state governments are obliged to cooperate in matters relating to the protection of the constitution, and the task of the constitution protection authorities is “the collection and evaluation of information, in particular factual and personal information, intelligence and documents”. This includes, among other things, “efforts that are directed against the free democratic basic order” - for example, against democracy, the rule of law and human rights. In practice, this mainly involves monitoring right-wing extremism, left-wing extremism and Islamist extremism.
What are the classification categories?
The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution classifies possible cases of anti-constitutional activities into three categories: The creation of a test case is the first step in the procedure at the Office for the Protection of the Constitution. In simple terms, this is a preliminary check to determine whether there are sufficient indications for observation. at this stage, the Office can only collect information from openly accessible sources: Newspaper articles, television reports or internet appearances, for example, but also public statements by the individuals involved, association statutes or party programs. The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution is not allowed to inform the public about the classification of a person or group as a case under investigation.
The next stage is the suspected case (εδώ βρίσκεται το AfD). From this second stage, the Office for the Protection of the Constitution is allowed to monitor the group in question, which is now considered an “object of observation”.
The third stage is the existence of a confirmed extremist endeavor. In this case, the suspicion has already become so firmly established that the authority no longer has any doubts about the existence of extremist activities. As in the case of suspected cases, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution also monitors the respective group or individual in this case and can also upgrade a test case directly to a confirmed organization without taking the “detour” of a suspected case. The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution also informs the public if there are sufficiently strong factual indications for the categories “suspected case” and “confirmed extremist”.
Το AfD είναι μισό βήμα πριν το τρίτο στάδιο (η νεολαία τους είναι ήδη εκεί αλλά εκρεμεί έφεσή τους) και το ομοσπονδιακό συνταγματικό δικαστήριο το οποίο μπορεί να του βάλει λουκέτο. Βασικά, με το κουστούμι που τους έχουν ράψει, τους το κλείνουν το μαγαζί ότι ώρα αποφασίσουν. Όλα είναι έτοιμα, μόνο το κουμπί πρέπει να πατήσουν, δεν χρειάζεται να περιμένουν πότε θα μαχαιρώσουν κανέναν να τρέχουν να βρούν παναθηναϊκάκια να τους διώξει και συνταγματολόγους να ερμηνεύσουν το σύνταγμα.
Aναλογίσου ότι η Λεπέν έκοψε κάθε δεσμό με το ΑfD γιατί το θεωρεί ακραίο και φοβάται ότι θα την λερώσει https://www.dw.com/en/french-far-right- ... a-69144718
Τέλος, στη Γερμανία το πρόβλημα έχει γεωγραφικούς όρους
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